American Society of Plastic Surgeons president Steven Williams evoked Tuskegee when asserting that gender doctors can't always be trusted to self-regulate. He said state regulation might be warranted.
Yep, that it’s a Trojan horse for all types of hate including transphobia. Tweet he posted on 6/6/21 at 6:03 pm. I just posted the screenshot in response to your Note linking to this article.
Woe! I just found the Note and screen capture. That is actually a lapse in professionalism on his part--I mean for a surgeon to decry a norm related to basic hygienic necessity in medicine--Yikes. What's next, Handwashing?
“The president of the American Society of Plastic Surgeons has declined to assert that the organization’s recent public statements regarding pediatric gender medicine categorically signaled its opposition to bans of gender-transition treatment for minors.”
The most equivocating piece of nonsense that I have ever read. It’s past time to shit or get off the pot. The amount of evidence of irreparable harm to minors that has led most of Western Europe to change course is overwhelming.
"However you’re coming into this or however you want to engage in this discussion, it should be informed by the evidence, not by personal or religious bias, including if you’re an expert in this field. And it should be based on the intent of actually wanting trans people to do well."
That last sentence is a gigantic loophole, isn't it? So if I review the evidence and still do not adopt a trans-maximalist viewpoint, I can still be told to keep my mouth shut; after all, only someone who does not want trans people to do well would feel that way, right?
That's what really irks me about gender ideology; language is slippery and the concepts ill-defined, which make it easy to accuse the unwary of bigotry and transphobia. That's why people like Jesse Singal speak so carefully, because he's well aware that there are people poised to mischaracterize what he says as hatred. And of course the spectre of suicide hangs over the entire topic--say the wrong thing and it is claimed that you are "literally killing trans people."
If you can't discuss a difference of opinion you can't resolve it, which is exactly what trans rights activists intend. The only resolution they want is total victory; hence their "no debate" slogan. They'd do well to remember that they are a tiny minority--if they refuse to debate, they are going to lose.
It isn't just the trans activists who refuse to debate. A high percentage of liberals and progressives, including liberal and progressive organizations, consider themselves trans allies. They won't abide debate either.
"If the public are sympathetic to this athlete’s plight when she was knocked off the top three tier, then they should also empathize with teen girls and women who were contenders in competitive female-only athletic events but saw their training and best efforts go down the drain when a boy or man identifying as female unfairly took one of the top spots due to his innate physiological advantage."
Here are the thought- and debate-ending replies my comment elicited:
> Take your grievance somewhere else.
> sports is all about someone having an innate physical advantage. i would have made it to the NBA if I was taller and faster like some of the freak athletes.
yeah, thats an apples to oranges argument but so is yours.
> Admit it, you really don't give a rat's rear about women in sports. Trans women just make you feel squeamish.
On the other hand, my comment has been up for several hours now, which is encouraging. It is the kind of opinion the Post's moderators have not tolerated in the past. For example, I was kicked off the Post's comments for 36 hours for posting that the two "female" boxers in Olympics controversy have XY chromosomes.
Is is encouraging that the comment received four likes and two positive comments, which is a positive sign. However, the fact that sex realist pieces are a rarity in the Post and other mainstream media that generate intense criticism from activists and allies shows that gatekeepers in the media are not willing to permit an open and public debate about gender ideology.
We don't know where Queer Surgeon® extraordinaire Blair Peters vacations, what kind of car he drives or whether he lives in one of Portland's coveted A-list neighborhoods or if he's even one of Portland's A-list queers. So more information is needed before we can say whether he's in genital mutilation for the money. My gut reaction is that Peter is a true believer along the lines of the ACLU's ferocious lady lawyer Chase Strangio.
It is worth noting that health authorities in five European nations have already engaged in a major pull-back of gender-transition treatment for minors. So if US gender doctors had the same read of the literature as those European nations, they would already have self-regulated and voluntarily restricted access to puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones to pediatric patients. On the contrary, their medical societies have continued to promote wide access. WPATH has said that the majority of adolescents with gender dysphoria would do better to go on meds.
"The problem originated with medicine (psychiatry), not gay liberation, feminism, postmodernism, leftist politics or 'woke'."
So the intellectual architects of "queer theory" philosophy such as Judith Butler are blameless? One would think queer theory has produced pernicious concepts that lead directly to delusions of bodies and delusions of minds. Think about the mass indoctrination of youth that is taking place in grades K-12 as kids are exposed to the Genderbread Person and the like.
Medicine stands by to take in the walking wounded with promises of relief from those delusions through chemicals and surgery.
Thank you for your thorough work.
He played the oppression hierarchy uno-reverse card! So the white guy had to play along. Bravo!
On his own, Peters says things like "professionalism is transphobic".
He literally said that?
Yep, that it’s a Trojan horse for all types of hate including transphobia. Tweet he posted on 6/6/21 at 6:03 pm. I just posted the screenshot in response to your Note linking to this article.
Woe! I just found the Note and screen capture. That is actually a lapse in professionalism on his part--I mean for a surgeon to decry a norm related to basic hygienic necessity in medicine--Yikes. What's next, Handwashing?
“The president of the American Society of Plastic Surgeons has declined to assert that the organization’s recent public statements regarding pediatric gender medicine categorically signaled its opposition to bans of gender-transition treatment for minors.”
The most equivocating piece of nonsense that I have ever read. It’s past time to shit or get off the pot. The amount of evidence of irreparable harm to minors that has led most of Western Europe to change course is overwhelming.
Thanks for this.
I notice this from Peters:
"However you’re coming into this or however you want to engage in this discussion, it should be informed by the evidence, not by personal or religious bias, including if you’re an expert in this field. And it should be based on the intent of actually wanting trans people to do well."
That last sentence is a gigantic loophole, isn't it? So if I review the evidence and still do not adopt a trans-maximalist viewpoint, I can still be told to keep my mouth shut; after all, only someone who does not want trans people to do well would feel that way, right?
That's what really irks me about gender ideology; language is slippery and the concepts ill-defined, which make it easy to accuse the unwary of bigotry and transphobia. That's why people like Jesse Singal speak so carefully, because he's well aware that there are people poised to mischaracterize what he says as hatred. And of course the spectre of suicide hangs over the entire topic--say the wrong thing and it is claimed that you are "literally killing trans people."
If you can't discuss a difference of opinion you can't resolve it, which is exactly what trans rights activists intend. The only resolution they want is total victory; hence their "no debate" slogan. They'd do well to remember that they are a tiny minority--if they refuse to debate, they are going to lose.
It isn't just the trans activists who refuse to debate. A high percentage of liberals and progressives, including liberal and progressive organizations, consider themselves trans allies. They won't abide debate either.
For example, I posted the following comment in the Washington Post today about a story concerning a female athlete who was stripped of her bronze medal. (Jordan Chiles’s Olympic medal controversy robbed her of ‘the person I am’ https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/09/12/jordan-chiles-olympic-bronze-medal-stripped/)
"If the public are sympathetic to this athlete’s plight when she was knocked off the top three tier, then they should also empathize with teen girls and women who were contenders in competitive female-only athletic events but saw their training and best efforts go down the drain when a boy or man identifying as female unfairly took one of the top spots due to his innate physiological advantage."
Here are the thought- and debate-ending replies my comment elicited:
> Take your grievance somewhere else.
> sports is all about someone having an innate physical advantage. i would have made it to the NBA if I was taller and faster like some of the freak athletes.
yeah, thats an apples to oranges argument but so is yours.
> Admit it, you really don't give a rat's rear about women in sports. Trans women just make you feel squeamish.
On the other hand, my comment has been up for several hours now, which is encouraging. It is the kind of opinion the Post's moderators have not tolerated in the past. For example, I was kicked off the Post's comments for 36 hours for posting that the two "female" boxers in Olympics controversy have XY chromosomes.
Is is encouraging that the comment received four likes and two positive comments, which is a positive sign. However, the fact that sex realist pieces are a rarity in the Post and other mainstream media that generate intense criticism from activists and allies shows that gatekeepers in the media are not willing to permit an open and public debate about gender ideology.
Great stuff!
Blair Peters, Queer Surgeon®. LOL
We don't know where Queer Surgeon® extraordinaire Blair Peters vacations, what kind of car he drives or whether he lives in one of Portland's coveted A-list neighborhoods or if he's even one of Portland's A-list queers. So more information is needed before we can say whether he's in genital mutilation for the money. My gut reaction is that Peter is a true believer along the lines of the ACLU's ferocious lady lawyer Chase Strangio.
I forget if he said it in this video or another one, but the wait time for a consultation with him is two or three years, I believe.
It is worth noting that health authorities in five European nations have already engaged in a major pull-back of gender-transition treatment for minors. So if US gender doctors had the same read of the literature as those European nations, they would already have self-regulated and voluntarily restricted access to puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones to pediatric patients. On the contrary, their medical societies have continued to promote wide access. WPATH has said that the majority of adolescents with gender dysphoria would do better to go on meds.
"The problem originated with medicine (psychiatry), not gay liberation, feminism, postmodernism, leftist politics or 'woke'."
So the intellectual architects of "queer theory" philosophy such as Judith Butler are blameless? One would think queer theory has produced pernicious concepts that lead directly to delusions of bodies and delusions of minds. Think about the mass indoctrination of youth that is taking place in grades K-12 as kids are exposed to the Genderbread Person and the like.
Medicine stands by to take in the walking wounded with promises of relief from those delusions through chemicals and surgery.