In an episode of the Dollcast podcast, I engage in a wide-ranging discussion with four transgender ladies about pediatric gender medicine and the bruising battles about the topic on social media.
I wonder why you agree that Rowling is "dehumanizing" trans people? It's strange given the relentless attacks, threats and vilification she has experienced for 5 years that you don't see how anything she writes or says is parsed to be an assault on trans people, even when it is not.
Trans women are men. Block me and provide a refund, but you cannot coerce me to lie in furtherance of an ideology that has been harming actual women and girls for years.
I'm going to advocate for something that I think will be unpopular with some here, especially given that I am a man writing this. But I'll put it out there anyway.
I think there are some situations where individuals who are technically male should be considered women for legal and social purposes. The existence of people with CAIS requires this. For males without CAIS it would have to be a VERY high bar, including complete SRS so that the threat of male-on-female sexual violence in shared spaces is reduced to the same as female-on-female sexual violence. Participation in women's sports would probably still be off the table, though I'd be open to exceptions. What else would be required, as well as how this would be determined and who would determine it would be challenging and an interesting conversation to have. But in principle I think this should be possible.
As far as I can tell all of the individuals in the podcast (Ben excepted of course) deserve to be treated legally and socially as women, even if they are technically male. I'm imagine you and others disagree.
I'm not sure if I misunderstand, but was Taf arguing that Title IX should be disbanded?And I did not get a sense of what the other trans women position was on sports. I mean, for natal girls, having an equal opportunity to participate in sports in just the high school level has been a huge benefit, and one of the great things that happened for natal girls in the last 50 years. I say this as a parent of a natal girl (now over age 18), that identifies as non-binary, who ran cross country from grades 7 to 12, with running varsity from 9 to 12, but honestly was not fast enough to run in college in a NCAA division 1. But this was such an amazing and core experience for her. If she was just thrown in with the natal males, she would never have had the opportunity to run in varsity, go to CIF prelims, County championships and compete in a meaningful way.
You go too easy on the media here. It's not surprising that activist groups push misinformation. It is incredibly serious when our "prestige" media organizations blatantly abuse or ignore the facts to support a narrative. I don't care if GLAAD is spewing nonsense. I really care when the NYT and NPR spew nonsense.
This was a good converstation. Should be a ton more like them to be able to get this all sorted out. Conversations need to be occurring on a middle ground like this and really ignoring TRAs and TRA groups and transphobic GC voices and outfits. This stuff can all get worked out if a social contract is formulated.
Trans advocacy orgs have billions of dollars in funding and have taken over every left-leaning organization from the ACLU to GLAAD to HRC to Planned Parenthood. I cannot take seriously anyone claiming that trans people are powerless. Brianna Wu is such a bad faith actor.
I wonder why you agree that Rowling is "dehumanizing" trans people? It's strange given the relentless attacks, threats and vilification she has experienced for 5 years that you don't see how anything she writes or says is parsed to be an assault on trans people, even when it is not.
You have to remember, these are five men sitting around discussing how many women's rights they feel entitled to co-opt.
If you call trans women men again on my page, I will block you. Behave yourself and be respectful.
Trans women are men. Block me and provide a refund, but you cannot coerce me to lie in furtherance of an ideology that has been harming actual women and girls for years.
I do not owe these men respect or lies.
I'm going to advocate for something that I think will be unpopular with some here, especially given that I am a man writing this. But I'll put it out there anyway.
I think there are some situations where individuals who are technically male should be considered women for legal and social purposes. The existence of people with CAIS requires this. For males without CAIS it would have to be a VERY high bar, including complete SRS so that the threat of male-on-female sexual violence in shared spaces is reduced to the same as female-on-female sexual violence. Participation in women's sports would probably still be off the table, though I'd be open to exceptions. What else would be required, as well as how this would be determined and who would determine it would be challenging and an interesting conversation to have. But in principle I think this should be possible.
As far as I can tell all of the individuals in the podcast (Ben excepted of course) deserve to be treated legally and socially as women, even if they are technically male. I'm imagine you and others disagree.
I'm not sure if I misunderstand, but was Taf arguing that Title IX should be disbanded?And I did not get a sense of what the other trans women position was on sports. I mean, for natal girls, having an equal opportunity to participate in sports in just the high school level has been a huge benefit, and one of the great things that happened for natal girls in the last 50 years. I say this as a parent of a natal girl (now over age 18), that identifies as non-binary, who ran cross country from grades 7 to 12, with running varsity from 9 to 12, but honestly was not fast enough to run in college in a NCAA division 1. But this was such an amazing and core experience for her. If she was just thrown in with the natal males, she would never have had the opportunity to run in varsity, go to CIF prelims, County championships and compete in a meaningful way.
You go too easy on the media here. It's not surprising that activist groups push misinformation. It is incredibly serious when our "prestige" media organizations blatantly abuse or ignore the facts to support a narrative. I don't care if GLAAD is spewing nonsense. I really care when the NYT and NPR spew nonsense.
This was a good converstation. Should be a ton more like them to be able to get this all sorted out. Conversations need to be occurring on a middle ground like this and really ignoring TRAs and TRA groups and transphobic GC voices and outfits. This stuff can all get worked out if a social contract is formulated.
Trans advocacy orgs have billions of dollars in funding and have taken over every left-leaning organization from the ACLU to GLAAD to HRC to Planned Parenthood. I cannot take seriously anyone claiming that trans people are powerless. Brianna Wu is such a bad faith actor.