Pediatric Gender Medicine Doctor Johanna Olson-Kennedy Is In The News. I Watched the Video of Her Advocating for Mastectomies For Gender Dysphoric Minors
Pediatric Gender Medicine Doctor Johanna Olson-Kennedy Is In The News. I Watched the Video of Her Advocating for Mastectomies For Gender Dysphoric Minors
The controversial pediatric gender medicine doctor has been pilloried over revelations that she withheld null research findings about puberty blockers and has a very dissatisfied former patient.
It's eerily similar to the recovered memory movement of the 1980s. Read Elizabeth Loftus' work on the topic. Recovered memory proponents used a lot of the same talking points, most notably that children would never, eve lie or be mistaken about recovered memories, and that anyone who opposes their movement or methodology is an evil bigot.
Thank you for exposing the medical and psychological harm being perpetrated on my child and thousands of others. Parents cannot always speak up as we work diligently and carefully to help our children back to reality and love for themselves. We need smart, dedicated, decent people like you to bring this scandal to the public’s attention and bring the corrupt individuals down. Keep digging. There so so much there. This is the scandal of our time. Well, there is also censorship… 😅
Garofalo expresses a belief that I used to hear all of the time, before I was banished from leftist spaces: Being transgender is as normal a human variant as green eyes or left-handedness. Left unquestioned is the reality that green-eyed people don't demand hormones or plastic surgery or THEY WILL KILL THEMSELVES.
Make no mistake; I am a dyed-in-the-wool liberal, and always have been. These gender jihadists--overzealous, intolerant, and filled with archaic ideas about the roles of men and women--remind me of nothing less than the religious right of the 80s and 90s. They are scarier, though, because it's always more fearful when the call is coming from inside the house.
A helpful thing to note about the way trans-captured clinicians evaluate the results of their work is their focus on the patient's expressed feelings, rather than any objective medical or scientific evaluation. If there's no "regret", there's no cause for concern they say.
But that standard is more appropriately applied to cosmetic surgery: if the patient is satisfied, treatment was by definition successful.
That's not an appropriate standard to evaluate medical treatment purported to be medically necessary to treat profound and potentially life-threatening psychological distress over the state of their bodies. A more thorough and objective evaluation is warranted, like stats on actual documented suicide attempts, hospitalizations, clinical diagnoses, psych drug prescriptions.
It's no accident that they talk this way; if you observe the language they use with prospective patients, they sound exactly like cosmetic surgeons, offering an a la carte selection of procedures to help patients realize their goals on their gender journey.
It's only come insurance-coverage time or skeptical parent-conference time or other contexts in which they need to rationalize the prioritization of funding for their work will they invoke doomsday language about suicides and suffering.
What the trans movement has accomplished in their medical activism is the equivalent of a lobby group for teen girls and young women who successfully convince the world that if they don't get their boob jobs, fully funded and on-demand, it'll be the end of life as we know it.
"if you observe the language they use with prospective patients, they sound exactly like cosmetic surgeons"
This is an angle I haven't looked at much and am interested in exploring more. Do you have any resources you can point me to that go into more depth about how cosmetic surgeons operate compared with other types of doctors?
"if the patient is satisfied, treatment was by definition successful."
This reminds me of how I've heard Steensma and de Vries respond when asked about the emotional well-being and life functioning of the members in the original Dutch study (thinking mostly of their interview on Gender A Wider Lens). It seemed like their view was that if they fixed the gender incongruence the treatment was considered a success regardless of how the patient was doing in other aspects of their lives.
The answer to your question is in your own quote: “Observe the language they use”. There are hundreds of clinics in the US alone. Start by googling phrases like “surgical services for your gender journey” or “clinic for your gender journey”. That’ll lead you to their opening raps to potential patients on their websites. Poke around, read what they have, request more info, you’ll get everything you’re looking for.
Yes, Steensma & de Vries are endocrinologists I believe. They have NO EXCUSE for ignoring the question of what these kids were giving up cognitively, emotionally, physiologically by never going through normal puberty. NONE. Any idiot with common sense could see it was going to be a huge toll to pay.
Watch this vid made by one of the early young transitioners, now 30 years old and recently detransitioned, and you start to get a sense of the colossal scale of what has been done to each one of those kids' bodies.
Among other things, he still looks & sounds 13. Literally a Peter Pan who never grew up.
I used the Peter Pan analogy in my latest article for Genspect. If we turn Foucauldian postmodernism back on itself, what is the power relation between the gender-affirming surgeon and the patient? Is the patient really in charge, even though they are told this?
Thank you for raising the folks vs. people distinction. I have thought about it a lot. I think it started with 90s activists like Riki Wilchins who were trying to give themselves a friendly image to obscure the reality that their tactics and goals were very aggressive (eg Michfest).
The social justice usage may derive from the book 'The Souls of Black Folk', by W.E.B. Du Bois (1903). Folx being the multicultural, gender-neutral plural.
How are words like "people" and "folks" not equally gender-neutral and multicultural? I've seen proponents of the term "folx" openly admit that their usage of the term is exclusively a means of signalling their allegiance to the concepts with which it is associated, and not because it makes any kind of linguistic sense.
I thought the name Robert Garofolo sounded familiar. Looks like he was a co-author with.... Johanna Olson-Kennedy on "Psychosocial Functioning in Transgender Youth after 2 Years of Hormones" (2023), also known as "Chen et al" among the nerds like myself who spend way, way too much time reading about this. Jesse Singal has a great write up about this paper here: https://jessesingal.substack.com/p/on-scientific-transparency-researcher
A sociopath is indifferent to the suffering of others, a psychopath enjoys the suffering of others. Perhaps Johanna Olson-Kennedy is a sociopath, or worse. She is most certainly an unethical quack for pushing drugs and surgery on children who are still developing, mentally and physically. One of the core tenets of medicine, is to treat an actual ailment with the least invasive treatment first. With gender dysphoria, or body dysmorphia, that would be therapy, to get to the root of the mental anguish. An ethical doctor attempts to help heal a patient, with the primary aim to restore health and wholeness, without harming or removing body parts. Opportunistic quacks target vulnerable people to make easy money. Olson-Kennedy, and her ilk, belong behind bars.
Yeah I am done thinking these practitioners are well meaning but misguided. They see the outcomes. They know they are hurting kids. They like it that way. The reckoning is coming and we should give them no quarter. Long, long prison terms.
Don't underestimate how much people can delude & deceive themselves when they're under some stronger compulsion.
In this case I'm sensing Olsen-Kennedy has a MAJOR chip on her shoulder over adult/authority figures telling kids what's best for them. You can hear it in her tone in that video Ben included and other vids of her.
I think she genuinely and irrationally believes kids should make their own choices, their own mistakes and learn their own lessons, even if it seriously harms them.
My daughter's mother is just like that I'm sorry to say, and unsurprisingly was 110% behind my daughter when she ID'd as non-binary.
Thankfully she changed her mind about it and is back to being a girl.
Her tone of voice when she recalls parents’ anxieties was remarkable to me. She was so dismissive. She mocked them. She betrayed no empathy for their point of view.
Her explanation that “It has to be exactly on point, clear and concise. And that takes time.” comes across as very condescending. The NYT reporter as well as the public are essentially admonished for the very reasonable expectation that there be some results to report after 9 years have elapsed. Narcissistic types are typically unaware of how they come across to others, which makes it much more likely for them to be exposed. The dismissive, mocking tone are also part and parcel of this type of personality. All of it masks a very fragile ego.
I'm glad your daughter has desisted. Whatever your disagreements with her mother, she was dealing with one child -- her own beloved child -- and making a mistake many loving parents have made with their own beloved child based on bad advice and no experience with the situation.
That's entirely different from what Olsen-Kennedy is doing. She has put many, many children through "gender affirming care". She knows exactly what happens to them, she has seen the results again and again. She doesn't love those children -- which is normal, it would be impossible for doctors to love all their patients -- but doing the same thing over and over, while being very familiar with the bad outcomes -- goes beyond even self-justification or delusion or whatever. She is actively, informedly, knowledgeably choosing to harm children over and over and over again. She's not deluded. She's not "mistaken". She's a bad person.
I have a close friend who works as an oncologist. He says that medicine on the doctoral level (especially surgery) unintentionally self-selects for psychopaths and narcissists due to the highly competitive, class-based, and grueling nature of the profession. It also explains why there are doctors out there (like Emmet Oz and Ben Carson) who can be successful in medicine despite being profoundly stupid people.
There are excellent doctors who dedicate their lives to caring for others or to the study of medicine because those things are of tantamount importance to them personally. They have a great deal of love for science and helping people, and would have gone into medicine regardless of how much it paid. The celebrity doctors who rake in millions of dollars a year (like Mark "Marcy" Bowers and Johanna Olson-Kennedy) are not those kinds of people. They got into medicine for the money and the clout, and don't give a rat's ass about the Hippocratic oath or the well-being of others. They know that their reputation and personal wealth rides on the ideology of gender medicine, so they are uniquely likely to delusionally buy into the lies and push the agenda no matter the human cost.
The NYT reporter, Azeen Ghorayshi, has reported on these issues for some time and no doubt was aware of the study and its importance. I'm guessing she asked to conduct this "wide-ranging" interview with Olsen-Kennedy in hopes of finding out why there were no publications after 9 years of study, among other things no doubt.
She did a great job in getting the researcher to be candid!
This is the perfect time for the "specialist" Dr. Johanna Olson-Kennedy, to lose that distinction and perhaps have all of her medical credentials re evaluated. She is doing taxed payer funded research and she can decide not to publish her findings? Where is the outrage of what is being performed on our children?
Dr. Johanna Olson-Kennedy seeks prestige, fortune and power over another. Her presentation is risible, adolescent in nature and totally devoid of scientific merit. The concept of "Do no Harm" as a guiding principle of medical study never penetrated her self absorbed psyche. What angers me even more than this physician's casual arrogance is my profession's willingness to let such Dr. Mengele inspired experimentation go on in the US while much of the western world has, all but belatedly, recognized the lack of scientific basis behind the trans train. If Dr. Olson-Kennedy did, in fact, withhold a scientific study that contradicted her beliefs, she should be in prison or at least sued for every dollar she has and drummed out of the medical field. One would think that such physicians would fear the wrath of patients so grievously harmed at their hand.
As a parent, I see this as the Tuskegee experiment of our time.
Completely agree. Lobotomies as well
Yep. And the medical establishment's ignoring of the problem while profits are raked in is basically the new opioid scandal.
... but it's all on kids.
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real
It's eerily similar to the recovered memory movement of the 1980s. Read Elizabeth Loftus' work on the topic. Recovered memory proponents used a lot of the same talking points, most notably that children would never, eve lie or be mistaken about recovered memories, and that anyone who opposes their movement or methodology is an evil bigot.
How sad that we have children suffering, and the doctors they are often referred to are the actual lunatics.
Thank you for exposing the medical and psychological harm being perpetrated on my child and thousands of others. Parents cannot always speak up as we work diligently and carefully to help our children back to reality and love for themselves. We need smart, dedicated, decent people like you to bring this scandal to the public’s attention and bring the corrupt individuals down. Keep digging. There so so much there. This is the scandal of our time. Well, there is also censorship… 😅
Garofalo expresses a belief that I used to hear all of the time, before I was banished from leftist spaces: Being transgender is as normal a human variant as green eyes or left-handedness. Left unquestioned is the reality that green-eyed people don't demand hormones or plastic surgery or THEY WILL KILL THEMSELVES.
Make no mistake; I am a dyed-in-the-wool liberal, and always have been. These gender jihadists--overzealous, intolerant, and filled with archaic ideas about the roles of men and women--remind me of nothing less than the religious right of the 80s and 90s. They are scarier, though, because it's always more fearful when the call is coming from inside the house.
Thanks!
A helpful thing to note about the way trans-captured clinicians evaluate the results of their work is their focus on the patient's expressed feelings, rather than any objective medical or scientific evaluation. If there's no "regret", there's no cause for concern they say.
But that standard is more appropriately applied to cosmetic surgery: if the patient is satisfied, treatment was by definition successful.
That's not an appropriate standard to evaluate medical treatment purported to be medically necessary to treat profound and potentially life-threatening psychological distress over the state of their bodies. A more thorough and objective evaluation is warranted, like stats on actual documented suicide attempts, hospitalizations, clinical diagnoses, psych drug prescriptions.
It's no accident that they talk this way; if you observe the language they use with prospective patients, they sound exactly like cosmetic surgeons, offering an a la carte selection of procedures to help patients realize their goals on their gender journey.
It's only come insurance-coverage time or skeptical parent-conference time or other contexts in which they need to rationalize the prioritization of funding for their work will they invoke doomsday language about suicides and suffering.
What the trans movement has accomplished in their medical activism is the equivalent of a lobby group for teen girls and young women who successfully convince the world that if they don't get their boob jobs, fully funded and on-demand, it'll be the end of life as we know it.
"if you observe the language they use with prospective patients, they sound exactly like cosmetic surgeons"
This is an angle I haven't looked at much and am interested in exploring more. Do you have any resources you can point me to that go into more depth about how cosmetic surgeons operate compared with other types of doctors?
"if the patient is satisfied, treatment was by definition successful."
This reminds me of how I've heard Steensma and de Vries respond when asked about the emotional well-being and life functioning of the members in the original Dutch study (thinking mostly of their interview on Gender A Wider Lens). It seemed like their view was that if they fixed the gender incongruence the treatment was considered a success regardless of how the patient was doing in other aspects of their lives.
The answer to your question is in your own quote: “Observe the language they use”. There are hundreds of clinics in the US alone. Start by googling phrases like “surgical services for your gender journey” or “clinic for your gender journey”. That’ll lead you to their opening raps to potential patients on their websites. Poke around, read what they have, request more info, you’ll get everything you’re looking for.
Yes, Steensma & de Vries are endocrinologists I believe. They have NO EXCUSE for ignoring the question of what these kids were giving up cognitively, emotionally, physiologically by never going through normal puberty. NONE. Any idiot with common sense could see it was going to be a huge toll to pay.
Watch this vid made by one of the early young transitioners, now 30 years old and recently detransitioned, and you start to get a sense of the colossal scale of what has been done to each one of those kids' bodies.
Among other things, he still looks & sounds 13. Literally a Peter Pan who never grew up.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=149678171127514
I used the Peter Pan analogy in my latest article for Genspect. If we turn Foucauldian postmodernism back on itself, what is the power relation between the gender-affirming surgeon and the patient? Is the patient really in charge, even though they are told this?
Thank you for raising the folks vs. people distinction. I have thought about it a lot. I think it started with 90s activists like Riki Wilchins who were trying to give themselves a friendly image to obscure the reality that their tactics and goals were very aggressive (eg Michfest).
Interesting, thanks. I remain so confused by nomenclature codes that have no apparent distinction between other common terms.
The social justice usage may derive from the book 'The Souls of Black Folk', by W.E.B. Du Bois (1903). Folx being the multicultural, gender-neutral plural.
How are words like "people" and "folks" not equally gender-neutral and multicultural? I've seen proponents of the term "folx" openly admit that their usage of the term is exclusively a means of signalling their allegiance to the concepts with which it is associated, and not because it makes any kind of linguistic sense.
I thought the name Robert Garofolo sounded familiar. Looks like he was a co-author with.... Johanna Olson-Kennedy on "Psychosocial Functioning in Transgender Youth after 2 Years of Hormones" (2023), also known as "Chen et al" among the nerds like myself who spend way, way too much time reading about this. Jesse Singal has a great write up about this paper here: https://jessesingal.substack.com/p/on-scientific-transparency-researcher
Right, and with Amy Tishelman, who is in court as we speak suing Boston Children’s for workplace discrimination and retaliation.
A sociopath is indifferent to the suffering of others, a psychopath enjoys the suffering of others. Perhaps Johanna Olson-Kennedy is a sociopath, or worse. She is most certainly an unethical quack for pushing drugs and surgery on children who are still developing, mentally and physically. One of the core tenets of medicine, is to treat an actual ailment with the least invasive treatment first. With gender dysphoria, or body dysmorphia, that would be therapy, to get to the root of the mental anguish. An ethical doctor attempts to help heal a patient, with the primary aim to restore health and wholeness, without harming or removing body parts. Opportunistic quacks target vulnerable people to make easy money. Olson-Kennedy, and her ilk, belong behind bars.
Yeah I am done thinking these practitioners are well meaning but misguided. They see the outcomes. They know they are hurting kids. They like it that way. The reckoning is coming and we should give them no quarter. Long, long prison terms.
Don't underestimate how much people can delude & deceive themselves when they're under some stronger compulsion.
In this case I'm sensing Olsen-Kennedy has a MAJOR chip on her shoulder over adult/authority figures telling kids what's best for them. You can hear it in her tone in that video Ben included and other vids of her.
I think she genuinely and irrationally believes kids should make their own choices, their own mistakes and learn their own lessons, even if it seriously harms them.
My daughter's mother is just like that I'm sorry to say, and unsurprisingly was 110% behind my daughter when she ID'd as non-binary.
Thankfully she changed her mind about it and is back to being a girl.
Her tone of voice when she recalls parents’ anxieties was remarkable to me. She was so dismissive. She mocked them. She betrayed no empathy for their point of view.
Her explanation that “It has to be exactly on point, clear and concise. And that takes time.” comes across as very condescending. The NYT reporter as well as the public are essentially admonished for the very reasonable expectation that there be some results to report after 9 years have elapsed. Narcissistic types are typically unaware of how they come across to others, which makes it much more likely for them to be exposed. The dismissive, mocking tone are also part and parcel of this type of personality. All of it masks a very fragile ego.
I'm glad your daughter has desisted. Whatever your disagreements with her mother, she was dealing with one child -- her own beloved child -- and making a mistake many loving parents have made with their own beloved child based on bad advice and no experience with the situation.
That's entirely different from what Olsen-Kennedy is doing. She has put many, many children through "gender affirming care". She knows exactly what happens to them, she has seen the results again and again. She doesn't love those children -- which is normal, it would be impossible for doctors to love all their patients -- but doing the same thing over and over, while being very familiar with the bad outcomes -- goes beyond even self-justification or delusion or whatever. She is actively, informedly, knowledgeably choosing to harm children over and over and over again. She's not deluded. She's not "mistaken". She's a bad person.
I have a close friend who works as an oncologist. He says that medicine on the doctoral level (especially surgery) unintentionally self-selects for psychopaths and narcissists due to the highly competitive, class-based, and grueling nature of the profession. It also explains why there are doctors out there (like Emmet Oz and Ben Carson) who can be successful in medicine despite being profoundly stupid people.
There are excellent doctors who dedicate their lives to caring for others or to the study of medicine because those things are of tantamount importance to them personally. They have a great deal of love for science and helping people, and would have gone into medicine regardless of how much it paid. The celebrity doctors who rake in millions of dollars a year (like Mark "Marcy" Bowers and Johanna Olson-Kennedy) are not those kinds of people. They got into medicine for the money and the clout, and don't give a rat's ass about the Hippocratic oath or the well-being of others. They know that their reputation and personal wealth rides on the ideology of gender medicine, so they are uniquely likely to delusionally buy into the lies and push the agenda no matter the human cost.
How did this story ever get out?
The NYT reporter, Azeen Ghorayshi, has reported on these issues for some time and no doubt was aware of the study and its importance. I'm guessing she asked to conduct this "wide-ranging" interview with Olsen-Kennedy in hopes of finding out why there were no publications after 9 years of study, among other things no doubt.
She did a great job in getting the researcher to be candid!
The hubris of narcissists often leads to their own undoing.
This is the perfect time for the "specialist" Dr. Johanna Olson-Kennedy, to lose that distinction and perhaps have all of her medical credentials re evaluated. She is doing taxed payer funded research and she can decide not to publish her findings? Where is the outrage of what is being performed on our children?
Dr. Robert Garofalo: “trust me imma docta…also no questions please”!
Dr. Johanna Olson-Kennedy seeks prestige, fortune and power over another. Her presentation is risible, adolescent in nature and totally devoid of scientific merit. The concept of "Do no Harm" as a guiding principle of medical study never penetrated her self absorbed psyche. What angers me even more than this physician's casual arrogance is my profession's willingness to let such Dr. Mengele inspired experimentation go on in the US while much of the western world has, all but belatedly, recognized the lack of scientific basis behind the trans train. If Dr. Olson-Kennedy did, in fact, withhold a scientific study that contradicted her beliefs, she should be in prison or at least sued for every dollar she has and drummed out of the medical field. One would think that such physicians would fear the wrath of patients so grievously harmed at their hand.
Johanna appears to be a MtF trans identifying person. We can never allow men to claim they are women. Lies get out of hand.