The 6-year study, which plans to recruit 3,000 gender-incongruent youths, is expected to be complemented by a study of puberty blockers—one that has yet to receive regulatory and ethics approvals.
It will be another 7 years or so before finally results of these studies are released. Who knows how much this field will change by then. We could be in an entirely different world.
Agreed, there's no such thing as 'gender incongruence'. Like 'gender dysphoria' it's a thing made up by WPATH hacks and their progeny, in order to hijack mainstream medical and surgical practices, to serve their 'transgender' mission, including that of irreversibly harming the healthy bodies of children.
The very idea of a study of puberty blockers in GD children is highly unethical. Irreversible & potentially damaging. Given that blockers were implemented for esthetic reasons, it is impossible to justify their use. It would be a better use of funds and resources to have implemented a rigourous follow-up of young people who have already been treated with blockers
I welcome a more rigorous look at these treatments, but I have to ask--just who will be convinced? If the Cass Review is vindicated by PATHWAYS, will Parliament act? Will the public be swayed? Will activists change their tune?
I don't mean to be the voice of pessimism, but the last five years have taught me that proponents of these treatments are unconvinceable and indefatigable. It's hard to imagine they'll be discouraged by *more* facts.
It's good that they are conducting this study, however, it still starts from the false premise that "gender incongruent youth" are a naturally occurring cohort. Especially in the present day, where kids are raised to believe that they may be "born in the wrong body" if they do not conform to stereotypes, this cohort is a cultural artifact, a group of children inculcated with the false belief that it is possible or necessary to change sex to have it be aligned with their cultural preferences. Society damaged these kids by teaching them to believe in gender identity separate from sex, a novel and profoundly destabilizing psychological intervention, and now we are going to assess how this cohort fares without the medical interventions they have been taught to believe would help them. It's kind of perverse. Again, it's good that they do this study. But let's realize that the only reason they have to do it because they created this cohort.
Yes, gender norms have always existed and so have gender nonconforming people. But the idea that their nonconformity might make them not part of their sex class and that it is possible to identify out of it is very recent, and is what has made the diagnosis of "gender dysphoria" as prevalent and destabilizing as it is.
We need to stop teaching kids these false beliefs and create a society truly inclusive of gender nonconformity, within whatever sex one is born into. That would be real progress.
If I understand rightly this is just a qualitative study on experiences of people in the system. But what framing will the researchers have and isn't it likely given the impoverished information environment on treatment options just to get kids to say they just want more blockers and hormones.
"Additionally, the NHS’s adult gender clinics refused to provide the Cass Review with de-identified data on former GIDS patients. Consequently, Dr. Cass was unable to conduct any analysis on the long-term outcomes of adults who had received care for gender-related distress as children, including assessing how many of them detransitioned."
This outrageous facet of the scandal has not received enough attention. Why were the clinicians uncooperative? Do they not want to find out how the children to whom they provided these interventions fared later in life? Are they afraid of what might be found?
It will be another 7 years or so before finally results of these studies are released. Who knows how much this field will change by then. We could be in an entirely different world.
No child should have their puberty blocked.
Where were all of these children 15 years ago?
By gender incongruence is meant sissy boys and tomboy girls?
Agreed, there's no such thing as 'gender incongruence'. Like 'gender dysphoria' it's a thing made up by WPATH hacks and their progeny, in order to hijack mainstream medical and surgical practices, to serve their 'transgender' mission, including that of irreversibly harming the healthy bodies of children.
The very idea of a study of puberty blockers in GD children is highly unethical. Irreversible & potentially damaging. Given that blockers were implemented for esthetic reasons, it is impossible to justify their use. It would be a better use of funds and resources to have implemented a rigourous follow-up of young people who have already been treated with blockers
I welcome a more rigorous look at these treatments, but I have to ask--just who will be convinced? If the Cass Review is vindicated by PATHWAYS, will Parliament act? Will the public be swayed? Will activists change their tune?
I don't mean to be the voice of pessimism, but the last five years have taught me that proponents of these treatments are unconvinceable and indefatigable. It's hard to imagine they'll be discouraged by *more* facts.
It's good that they are conducting this study, however, it still starts from the false premise that "gender incongruent youth" are a naturally occurring cohort. Especially in the present day, where kids are raised to believe that they may be "born in the wrong body" if they do not conform to stereotypes, this cohort is a cultural artifact, a group of children inculcated with the false belief that it is possible or necessary to change sex to have it be aligned with their cultural preferences. Society damaged these kids by teaching them to believe in gender identity separate from sex, a novel and profoundly destabilizing psychological intervention, and now we are going to assess how this cohort fares without the medical interventions they have been taught to believe would help them. It's kind of perverse. Again, it's good that they do this study. But let's realize that the only reason they have to do it because they created this cohort.
Yes, gender norms have always existed and so have gender nonconforming people. But the idea that their nonconformity might make them not part of their sex class and that it is possible to identify out of it is very recent, and is what has made the diagnosis of "gender dysphoria" as prevalent and destabilizing as it is.
We need to stop teaching kids these false beliefs and create a society truly inclusive of gender nonconformity, within whatever sex one is born into. That would be real progress.
If I understand rightly this is just a qualitative study on experiences of people in the system. But what framing will the researchers have and isn't it likely given the impoverished information environment on treatment options just to get kids to say they just want more blockers and hormones.
"Additionally, the NHS’s adult gender clinics refused to provide the Cass Review with de-identified data on former GIDS patients. Consequently, Dr. Cass was unable to conduct any analysis on the long-term outcomes of adults who had received care for gender-related distress as children, including assessing how many of them detransitioned."
This outrageous facet of the scandal has not received enough attention. Why were the clinicians uncooperative? Do they not want to find out how the children to whom they provided these interventions fared later in life? Are they afraid of what might be found?